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Dianne van Dulken
2013-03-13 04:14:11 UTC
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What ho,

Been a long time between drinks,but one has to come out and be
horrified with others who will understand the level of horror.

Have you lot heard of this abomination that is Sebastian Faulkes
writing a "PG Wodehouse novel". Jeeves and the Wedding Bells I
believe this foul stench will be called.

What the????

I am rarely lost for words, but this time, I am...

The dog McIntosh
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2013-03-16 22:54:58 UTC
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Post by Dianne van Dulken
What ho,
Been a long time between drinks,but one has to come out and be
horrified with others who will understand the level of horror.
Have you lot heard of this abomination that is Sebastian Faulkes
writing a "PG Wodehouse novel".  Jeeves and the Wedding Bells I
believe this foul stench will be called.
What the????
I am rarely lost for words, but this time, I am...
The dog McIntosh
I believe this story in The Guardian describes the situation. What is
surprising is that the Wodehouse Estate is actually authorising it!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013/mar/07/jeeves-sebastian-faulks-wodehouse-novel

As I posted the news about the forthcoming BBC Blandings series (six
half-hour episodes), in January 2013 (before they aired), I suppose I
should follow up and say that they are all available in full on
Youtube, but in the opinion of many Wodehouseans are very
disappointing. They play fast and loose with the books and hardly use
any of Wodehouse's prose which should have been the entire point of
the exercise. The following article by Tony Ring from the PG Wodehouse
Society's website attempts to explain why.

http://www.pgwodehousesociety.org.uk/tvradio.html

Here is the Sebastian Faulks article in full:

Jeeves carries on in Sebastian Faulks's Wodehouse sequel
Birdsong author to publish first ever authorised follow-up to beloved
Bertie Wooster novels

guardian.co.uk, Thursday 7 March 2013 09.27 EST

What ho! It may be almost 40 years since their last appearance, but
Bertie Wooster and his "gentleman's personal gentleman" Jeeves are due
to return this November when Sebastian Faulks dons the mantle of their
much-loved creator, PG Wodehouse.

Faulks, who is becoming used to slipping into the skin of classic
authors, after publishing a bestselling James Bond novel in 2008, was
approached by the Wodehouse estate to take on the first ever
authorised Wodehouse follow-up. Jeeves and the Wedding Bells,
described as "a homage to PG Wodehouse" by the author's estate, will
be published on 6 November by Hutchinson, also home to Wodehouse's
later novels.


Few other details were given away by the publisher, but it did say
that the new novel would "be faithful to the history and personality
of Wodehouse's characters but by shining a different light on them
will also show how robust, durable and lovable these creations are".
The adventures – and attempts to avoid the perils of matrimony - of
the foppish aristocrat Bertie Wooster and his manservant Jeeves have
enchanted readers ever since Wodehouse first introduced them in the
short story Extricating Young Gussie in 1915. They went on to star in
many more novels and stories, culminating in Aunts Aren't Gentlemen in
1974, written shortly before his death, when the author was well into
his nineties.


Faulks, a lifelong fan of Wodehouse, reading his first Jeeves story
when he was 12 and recently rereading much of the author's work while
travelling in India, was the "perfect person" to continue the
adventures of Jeeves and Wooster, said the publisher. In his 2011 book
Faulks on Fiction, Faulks wrote that a scene from The Mating Season, a
Jeeves novel in which Bertie impersonates his friend Gussie Fink-
Nottle, running into Gussie's simpering fiancee Madeline, was probably
his favourite "in the whole canon of English literature".


The Birdsong author called it an "honour" to have been asked to work
with "these greatly loved characters". Admitting that Wodehouse is
"inimitable", he promised to "do the very best I can, with respect and
with gratitude for all the pleasure the books have given, but also
with a light heart".


"I hope my story will ring bells with aficionados but also bring new
readers to these wonderful books," said Faulks. The author's
authorised 007 novel, Devil May Care, sold more than 44,000 copies in
its first four days in the shops and drew largely positive reviews.
"Daggers should be withdrawn. It's good," wrote Euan Ferguson in the
Observer. "Faulks has done in some ways an absolutely sterling job. He
has resisted pastiche."


But Robert McCrum, author of a biography of Wodehouse and Observer
associate editor, called Faulks "a brave man" to take Jeeves and
Wooster on. "Wodehouse is a much tougher egg than Fleming and 007/
Bond. For a PG Wodehouse fan to write a new Jeeves novel is a bit like
asking a devout Christian to come up with a fifth gospel," said
McCrum. "It looks perilously like Mission Impossible to me, but I wish
Faulks the very best of luck. If anyone can pull it off, he can."
Heather
2013-03-28 06:33:26 UTC
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DonH
2013-04-02 17:49:35 UTC
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Post by Dianne van Dulken
What ho,
Been a long time between drinks,but one has to come out and be
horrified with others who will understand the level of horror.
Have you lot heard of this abomination that is Sebastian Faulkes
writing a "PG Wodehouse novel". Jeeves and the Wedding Bells I
believe this foul stench will be called.
What the????
I am rarely lost for words, but this time, I am...
The dog McIntosh
# Might not be worse than the trashing of Sherlock Holmes, via Hollywood,
etc, by those who think they can get away with it.
Still, the Rathbone & Bruce movies seldom stuck to the original script,
and even the Jeremy Brett TV series departed occasionally.
What did Wodehouse, Chandler, and Forester, have in common?
They went to Dulwich College - but not at the same time.
(See also - alt.fan.holmes)
Charles Bishop
2014-09-14 01:27:16 UTC
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What ho,
Been a long time between drinks,but one has to come out and be
horrified with others who will understand the level of horror.
Have you lot heard of this abomination that is Sebastian Faulkes
writing a "PG Wodehouse novel". Jeeves and the Wedding Bells I
believe this foul stench will be called.
What the????
I am rarely lost for words, but this time, I am...
I share your horror. I think what happens is these writer johnnys think
"I can do better than that." and to prove it they don't and probably
can't.

I have seen pastiches where the author could probably do a good enough
job with the writing, but it's hard, as we know, to get the plots right.
The worst of PGW's plots are probably better than the best they can
imagine.

I shudder, shudder with fear. Fear and Outrage.

Charles, once Gally Threepwood
Wayne Brown
2014-09-18 14:26:33 UTC
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Post by Dianne van Dulken
What ho,
Been a long time between drinks,but one has to come out and be
horrified with others who will understand the level of horror.
Have you lot heard of this abomination that is Sebastian Faulkes
writing a "PG Wodehouse novel". Jeeves and the Wedding Bells I
believe this foul stench will be called.
What the????
I am rarely lost for words, but this time, I am...
I share your horror. I think what happens is these writer johnnys think
"I can do better than that." and to prove it they don't and probably
can't.
I have seen pastiches where the author could probably do a good enough
job with the writing, but it's hard, as we know, to get the plots right.
The worst of PGW's plots are probably better than the best they can
imagine.
I shudder, shudder with fear. Fear and Outrage.
Charles, once Gally Threepwood
My daughter-in-law brought it home from the library the other day.
I'll probably read it after she's through with it, and I'll try to give
it a fair hearing, but my expectations are not high. The publisher's
statement about "shining a different light on" the Wodehouse characters
fills me with trepidation. The rosy glow of their original light already
is quite satisfactory.
--
F. Wayne Brown <***@bellsouth.net>

Þæs ofereode, ðisses swa mæg. ("That passed away, this also can.")
from "Deor," in the Exeter Book (folios 100r-100v)
Wayne Brown
2014-10-07 14:15:24 UTC
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What ho,
Been a long time between drinks,but one has to come out and be
horrified with others who will understand the level of horror.
Have you lot heard of this abomination that is Sebastian Faulkes
writing a "PG Wodehouse novel". Jeeves and the Wedding Bells I
believe this foul stench will be called.
What the????
I am rarely lost for words, but this time, I am...
I share your horror. I think what happens is these writer johnnys think
"I can do better than that." and to prove it they don't and probably
can't.
I have seen pastiches where the author could probably do a good enough
job with the writing, but it's hard, as we know, to get the plots right.
The worst of PGW's plots are probably better than the best they can
imagine.
I shudder, shudder with fear. Fear and Outrage.
Charles, once Gally Threepwood
My daughter-in-law brought it home from the library the other day.
I'll probably read it after she's through with it, and I'll try to give
it a fair hearing, but my expectations are not high. The publisher's
statement about "shining a different light on" the Wodehouse characters
fills me with trepidation. The rosy glow of their original light already
is quite satisfactory.
I just finished reading "Jeeves and the Wedding Bells" this past weekend.
It was better than expected, though by no means perfect. The author said
in his introduction that he did not intend to slavishly copy the Wodehouse
style, which might easily turn into parody. Instead, he said he intended
his book to be an homage that would bring a nostalgic remembrance to
veteran Wodehouse fans, while perhaps suggesting enough of the flavor
of the originals to draw new readers on to read the master's own works.
In this I think he largely succeeded, though there were a few passages
in which I felt he may have succumbed to temptation and tried a little
too hard; in such passages he seemed to me to be trying almost to be more
Wodehousian than Wodehouse himself. For the most part, though, he showed
admirable restraint and often hit exactly the right note. I suppose the
best compliment I can give is that sometimes, for a few pages at a time,
I would forget that I was not reading the genuine article.

The book does a good job of referencing beloved Wodehouse characters
like Bingo Little, Bobby Wickham and Pauline Stoker without hitting
us over the head with them (and indeed, without them appearing in
the story except in Bertie's reminiscences). It has all the standard
furniture of a Jeeves and Wooster story: A quick escape from London
to avoid a visit from Aunt Agatha; a visit to a large country estate
with a group of people connected to one another in convoluted ways;
a damsel engaged to a man she doesn't love through economic necessity
and family loyalty; another engaged couple braving the displeasure of
a disapproving father; Bertie trying good-naturedly to repair a lovers'
quarrel and getting himself tangled up in the middle, with both parties
mistaking his innocent intentions; both Bertie and Jeeves pretending to
be people other than themselves; sporting wagers going wrong; climbing
in and out of windows, mistaking one person's room for another's, and
having to flee across rooftops; and everything coming right in the end,
thanks to a previously-undisclosed plan of Jeeves that takes into account
the flaws in Bertie's well-meaning but bumbling schemes.

The major fault I saw in the book was not a single incident but an overall
impression. It seems to me that Bertie was just a bit too clever in
this book. He always thinks himself clever, of course, though he also
recognizes the familiar Jeeves superiority in the brain department, but
here he seems a little less befuddled than we have come to expect, and
the cleverness of Jeeves does not shine quite as brightly by comparison.
Bertie seems to me to have "grown up" somewhat compared to his earlier
adventures, though ultimately he still needs Jeeves to rescue him.

There appeared to me to be a few inaccuracies and possible anachronisms
in the text. One thing I enjoyed was that the author portrays one of his
characters as an expert on "Sumerian tablets and the cuneiform script,"
which is an area of study in which I myself take a great interest.
This lady is a friend of Aunt Agatha and Bertie is continually nervous
that she might penetrate his disguise. In his narration he makes several
humorous comments related to her vocation. But there appeared to be a
couple of factual errors in this part of the story. For one, Bertie
refers to "Sumeria" rather than "Sumer," though that might have been
an intentional mistake on the part of the author to highlight Bertie's
unfamiliarity with the subject. But there is also a reference to the
"Journal of Cuneiform Studies." This is a real-world journal, a product
of the American Schools of Oriental Research, and it did not begin
publication until 1947. That seems to me to be far too late for Bertie's
milieu and thus would be an anachronism. I was under the impression
that all the Jeeves and Wooster stories took place during the Edwardian
period and I don't recall any of them reaching even so far forward as the
First World War, let alone the post-WWII era. There is, however, another
passage in this book that seems clearly to speak of one of those wars.
While driving through a lovely piece of countryside Bertie remarks to
Jeeves about how they might have "lost all of this" and they speak of the
"hostilities," which seems to indicate at least a post-WWI time-frame.

All in all, I think this is a worthwhile book, especially since the
author makes it clear up front that he is not attempting to write a
genuine Wodehouse book, but merely to give us a last look at some
beloved characters in a way that will remind us pleasantly of the
real thing. The end of the book, which I suppose is intended to "wrap
up" the Jeeves and Wooster tales, was at once both surprisingly out of
character and yet too obvious (I saw it coming a mile away); I cannot
imagine Wodehouse writing such an ending. But perhaps that is part of
the author's intention, to do something Wodehouse would not have done.
In any case, I'm glad I read it at least once, though I doubt that I
will repeat the experience as I have done with the originals.
--
F. Wayne Brown <***@bellsouth.net>

Þæs ofereode, ðisses swa mæg. ("That passed away, this also can.")
from "Deor," in the Exeter Book (folios 100r-100v)
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